Brain fog. Epub 2010 Dec 22. This can be caused by damage to the prostate or semen-producing glands as a result of surgery or radiation treatment for cancer in the pelvic area. 2022 Oct;11(10):1452-1457. doi: 10.21037/tau-22-92. The number of men sharing their experience of Post-Finasteride Syndrome is steadily rising, painting a bleak picture of the life-shattering effects the drug can have. A mod answered and I answered the guy in a normal way, but they deleted my reply and blocked my account. Energy-boosting coffee alternatives: What to know. However, some men report persistent sex drive and ejaculation problems after stopping the medication. Make a list of all medications, vitamins and supplements that you're taking. Finasteride causes cognitive & sexual decline. Mayo Clinic on Incontinence - Mayo Clinic Press, NEW The Essential Diabetes Book - Mayo Clinic Press, NEW Ending the Opioid Crisis - Mayo Clinic Press, FREE Mayo Clinic Diet Assessment - Mayo Clinic Press, Mayo Clinic Health Letter - FREE book - Mayo Clinic Press, Mayo Clinic Graduate School of Biomedical Sciences, Mayo Clinic School of Continuous Professional Development, Mayo Clinic School of Graduate Medical Education, Book: Mayo Clinic Family Health Book, 5th Edition, Book: Mayo Clinic Guide to Fertility and Conception. 150mg/ day transdermal Testosterone gel applied to scrotum - 50mg/ day DHT gel applied to inner forearms and penis - 50mg oral pregnenolone/25mg DHEA daily, https://old.reddit.com/r/FinasterideSyndrome/comments/u1svwo/has_anyone_else_recovered_from_watery_semen_and/i4eg1it/?context=999. Keywords: Took finasteride for 5 months. Yeah the joe_kool guy or whatever his name is had really good luck with TRT, he is honestly the reason I went down this road. Brain Res Bull. Adverse side effects of 5-reductase inhibitors therapy: persistent diminished libido and erectile dysfunction and depression in a subset of patients. Instead of having a discussion, nope banned. Get helpful tips and guidance for everything from fighting inflammation to finding the best diets for weight lossfrom exercises to build a stronger core to advice on treating cataracts. I remember being depressed, emasculated, and hopeless. Retrograde ejaculation can be especially challenging if you and your partner want to conceive a child. Certain medications used to treat retrograde ejaculation can increase your blood pressure and heart rate, which can be dangerous if you have high blood pressure or heart disease. .LalRrQILNjt65y-p-QlWH{fill:var(--newRedditTheme-actionIcon);height:18px;width:18px}.LalRrQILNjt65y-p-QlWH rect{stroke:var(--newRedditTheme-metaText)}._3J2-xIxxxP9ISzeLWCOUVc{height:18px}.FyLpt0kIWG1bTDWZ8HIL1{margin-top:4px}._2ntJEAiwKXBGvxrJiqxx_2,._1SqBC7PQ5dMOdF0MhPIkA8{vertical-align:middle}._1SqBC7PQ5dMOdF0MhPIkA8{-ms-flex-align:center;align-items:center;display:-ms-inline-flexbox;display:inline-flex;-ms-flex-direction:row;flex-direction:row;-ms-flex-pack:center;justify-content:center} I took 2 capsules before my daily workout at around 6pm and another 4 capsules 20 minutes before bedtime. Gut Inflammation Induced by Finasteride Withdrawal: Therapeutic Effect of Allopregnanolone in Adult Male Rats. It can cause bladder and urination problems. For what it's worth, here's a couple similar success stories involving numbness, but from PSSD instead of PFS: Testosterone along with initial estrogen management , completely cured my pssd, everything from numbness, to hard on quality , no morning wood, to actually having sexual desires again. http://www.resolve.org/about-infertility/what-is-infertility/frequently-asked-questions-about-infertility.html. Q. I have heard that finasteride, which I take for my prostate problem, can cause permanent impotence. No content on this site, regardless of date, should ever be used as a substitute for direct medical advice from your doctor or other qualified clinician. But on day 3, I felt like my old self. And yeah I know hackstasis, looks to be a much better community and forum than propeciahelp without fascist mods. ._3-SW6hQX6gXK9G4FM74obr{display:inline-block;vertical-align:text-bottom;width:16px;height:16px;font-size:16px;line-height:16px} Don't miss your FREE gift. That's one of the mildest forms of PFS you can experience. WebDr Jordan Grant and Gil T talk about Post Finasteride Syndrome Recovery (PFS recovery). Check his posts and look at the reasons. Im only able to maintain arousal under very peculiar circumstances, and even thats not the level of hardness Im used to having pre-fin. Last time I was on there they had started discussing some relationships between HCG and Thyroid? FOIA .ehsOqYO6dxn_Pf9Dzwu37{margin-top:0;overflow:visible}._2pFdCpgBihIaYh9DSMWBIu{height:24px}._2pFdCpgBihIaYh9DSMWBIu.uMPgOFYlCc5uvpa2Lbteu{border-radius:2px}._2pFdCpgBihIaYh9DSMWBIu.uMPgOFYlCc5uvpa2Lbteu:focus,._2pFdCpgBihIaYh9DSMWBIu.uMPgOFYlCc5uvpa2Lbteu:hover{background-color:var(--newRedditTheme-navIconFaded10);outline:none}._38GxRFSqSC-Z2VLi5Xzkjy{color:var(--newCommunityTheme-actionIcon)}._2DO72U0b_6CUw3msKGrnnT{border-top:none;color:var(--newCommunityTheme-metaText);cursor:pointer;padding:8px 16px 8px 8px;text-transform:none}._2DO72U0b_6CUw3msKGrnnT:hover{background-color:#0079d3;border:none;color:var(--newCommunityTheme-body);fill:var(--newCommunityTheme-body)} more https://www.jasonemermd.com/cosmetic-dermatology/regenerative-medicine/hormonal I recovered and I hope all of you suffering from PFS recover too. In some cases, sperm can be recovered from the bladder, processed in the laboratory and used to inseminate your partner (intrauterine insemination). Finasteride (Propecia) is a medication that can help treat MPB by lowering levels of DHT. Many men with retrograde ejaculation are able to get their partners pregnant once they seek treatment. I understand not wanting to have a bunch of hack cures on their forum that dont really do anything or worse yet, make people worse, but at some point when theres a condition we dont know how to fix it seems like some trial and error wouldnt be the worst idea in the world. Disorders of male orgasm and ejaculation. If we cant discuss potential cures then that forum is completely worthless and I start to doubt their real intentions. PMC i am so desperate.. i am a female.. i need my hair back.. but o reallu cannot undergoo all this syntomps ( i gained 20 kg on fina and dutasterde.. no muscle stranght anymore.. no way to lose weight.. i really can' t tell a lot about mental and neurological condition.. but II am so depressed too.. but probably because I am bald and fat there must be a way to take fina without sides.. there must be a way..). I will tell you how I solved my problem with post-finasteride syndrome, which produces no erections or little libido even if you have stopped taking the famous drug years ago. Check out these best-sellers and special offers on books and newsletters from Mayo Clinic Press. What the hell? ._3bX7W3J0lU78fp7cayvNxx{max-width:208px;text-align:center} ._2Gt13AX94UlLxkluAMsZqP{background-position:50%;background-repeat:no-repeat;background-size:contain;position:relative;display:inline-block} Accessed Sept. 15, 2016. Btw, something weird happening on propeciahelp forums. 2013 Oct;10(10):2598-603. doi: 10.1111/jsm.12269. The problem is that most docs prescribe it at excessively high levels (5 mg/day). -, Baig M.S., Kolasa-Wolosiuk A., Pilutin A., Safranow K., Baranowska-Bosiacka I., Kabat-Koperska J., Wiszniewska B. Finasteride-induced inhibition of 5alpha-reductase type 2 could lead to kidney damage-animal, experimental study. Post Finasteride Syndrome can be manually corrected by interpreting blood work and implementing an appropriate lifestyle and/or pharmacological protocol. However, the side effects of a medication usually go away when you stop taking it. "Mayo," "Mayo Clinic," "MayoClinic.org," "Mayo Clinic Healthy Living," and the triple-shield Mayo Clinic logo are trademarks of Mayo Foundation for Medical Education and Research. Case report: a study of the clinical characteristics and genetic variants of post-finasteride syndrome patients. Essentially I took testosterone exogenously And I took hcg afterwards, https://old.reddit.com/r/PSSD/comments/7lfc1e/how_i_fixed_my_pssd/. Answer: Hormonal optimization while on finesteride there are many options including peptides, and HCG as well as clomid/arimidex. That is 250IU, not a typo so youll mix your 5000iu HCG with 5CC water and take 1/4 CC intramuscular three times a week using an insulin needle Have you heard about it? They claim its more to cover their ass because they dont want people trying whatever unproven solution and get worse and commit suicide or something. There was this guy on propecia help called JustQuitDut who was a complete psycho, who thought that taking TRT with estrogen blockers would somehow solve it. A community dedicated to people suffering long term effects after taking 5-ar inhibitors such as Propecia/Finasteride, or for people who wish to know more about the constellation of symptoms commonly known as Post Finasteride Syndrome. The PubMed wordmark and PubMed logo are registered trademarks of the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services (HHS). Unable to load your collection due to an error, Unable to load your delegates due to an error. Common finasteride side effects include loss of libido, breast enlargement, erectile dysfunction (ED), and lower ejaculatory volume. I read the thing on Healthline where it says it doesn't raise testosterone in humans. Inability to concentrate. 2012;97:306. Tamoxifen I did 20mg during the four weeks every day. Your doctor will want to determine whether your dry orgasms are retrograde ejaculation or linked to another problem that may need further evaluation. Hum. For details,, MeSH Post-finasteride syndrome: a surmountable challenge for clinicians. I had a case of PFS that was a severe as it gets. Pharmacological Management of Pattern Hair Loss. I was one of the lucky guys who recovered from Test injections, https://old.reddit.com/r/steroids/comments/igyd61/offtopic_daily_chat_20200826/g2ym80n/. I'm Just 18 and I'm Losing my Hair. This content does not have an English version. WebPost-finasteride syndrome occurs in men whove taken finasteride to treat hair loss or enlarged prostates. Sign up to get tips for living a healthy lifestyle, with ways to fight inflammation and improve cognitive health, plus the latest advances in preventative medicine, diet and exercise, pain relief, blood pressure and cholesterol management, andmore. I didnt feel any improvement and felt worse during that period but after that period I healed which is very weird. Why not save the other half for your next dose? Samplaski MK, et al. Partin AW, et al., eds. Next to no sensitivity in my genitals. Plentiful in opinions, short on facts. Stopping finasteride treatment can cause post-finasteride syndrome. Very controversial topic in this forum. Were on our own to beat this, just wait is the worst solution to pfs there is. After a bit over a week I decreased the dose to 10mg before bedtime and none in the afternoon. The results have been amazing and far too great to chalk it up to just being a placebo. Of course I said this in a respectable manner Result: post deleted and banned. I only said everyone should read it, especially in light of the big new proviron recovery on the forum there. Drugs generally won't help if retrograde ejaculation is due to surgery that causes permanent physical changes of your anatomy. Key takeaways: Finasteride is an FDA-approved medication that treats hair loss in men. Neuroactive steroid levels are modified in cerebrospinal fluid and plasma of post-finasteride patients showing persistent sexual side effects and anxious/depressive symptomatology. After I got PFS my libido died, I stopped liking women, my brain wouldn't work, and my personality changed to a 90 old man. Authors received funding from the Post-Finasteride Foundation in order to study PFS symptomatology of patients and in experimental models. With prostate cancer deaths overtaking that of breast cancer, it is important to know the side effects of finasteride. Its on an auto refill and I get 90 day supplies sent to me in the mail. Is Post Finasteride Syndrome Real? | How To Diagnose And Reverse It. Ive read theres on guy there who recoverd recently from HCG, very interesting. breast tenderness. Midodrine, a medicine that constricts blood vessels, Chlorpheniramine and brompheniramine, antihistamines that help relieve allergies, Ephedrine, pseudoephedrine and phenylephrine, medicines that help relieve symptoms of the common cold. Even Viagra wouldnt get me hard. Do tests to see pregnenolone, progesterone, testosterone, DHT, thyroid (TSH, total and free T4 and T3, rT3), estradiol, estrone-sulfate and cortisol (both blood and 24h saliva). Metab. This is to be expected because you are messing with a hormone (DHT) that is very important for sexual function. I had all the classic symptoms. Should I be concerned? Examples include bladder neck surgery and transurethral resection of the prostate. The presence of side effects during pharmacological treatment is unfortunately a quite common problem. I haven't introduced any other supplements or medications. I took a large amount of DHT (proviron) for 7 weeks at 200 mg per day to reduce receptor sensitivity to DHT. The data does support that finasteride does have sexual side-effects for guys that are not on TRT while you are using it. This condition, termed post-finasteride syndrome (PFS) is characterized by sexual side effects (i.e., low libido, erectile dysfunction, decreased arousal and difficulty in achieving orgasm), depression, anxiety and cognitive complaints that are still present despite drug withdrawal. Now I can happily say that I no longer have any problem, strong erection all day and all night. A. Finasteride (sold as Proscar and generic brands) is prescribed for symptoms of an enlarged prostate; it's also used at a lower strength (under the name Propecia) for male pattern baldness. I was able to have 8 sexual encounters in 1 week with different people - I felt no PFS symptoms whatsoever My muscle mass and body fat composition is now normal, my semen thickened, Peyronies stabilized, penis pain subsided, testicular pain is rare cognitive issues are resolved, and overall I think I've bounced back almost entirely. I am not aware of the use of Human Growth Hormone in the treatment for Post Finasteride Syndrome. Amedical opinion on this procedure would be important, because we do not have scientific evidence about HCG and PFS, but it would already be a start. Other: Issues retaining and producing muscle, rectal muscle pain, spike in lower-abdomen fat, also has anyone noticed a rapid increase in earwax production? This site needs JavaScript to work properly. Elsevier; 2021. https://www.clinicalkey.com. -, Baas W.R., Butcher M.J., Lwin A., Holland B., Herberts M., Clemons J., Delfino K., Althof S., Kohler T.S., McVary K.T. WebPost finasteride syndrome is real. To date, the PFS Foundation has identified 104 such professionals who have published scientific findings and/or voiced opinions on causative links between finasteride and PFS. Some of these same doctors and researchers are also members of our Medical Professionals team, counseling PFS patients and their loved ones worldwide. Personally, I believe its become the boogeyman for a bucket list of sexual problems. Exp. Urology. The drug has a very short half life in the bode, but the $1,000,000 question is whether there a a long-term alteration in DHT production and/or effectiveness. Get the latest in health news delivered to your inbox! Oh, and to not need to play with and shake the life out of my penis to wake it up. I just decided to get back on gear after a year off + dutasteride during that time. Shift work can harm sleep and health: What helps? Drugs that can cause retrograde ejaculation include certain medications for depression and alpha blockers drugs used to treat high blood pressure and some prostate conditions. Can sperm be retrieved from my bladder and used for fertility treatment? ._1x9diBHPBP-hL1JiwUwJ5J{font-size:14px;font-weight:500;line-height:18px;color:#ff585b;padding-left:3px;padding-right:24px}._2B0OHMLKb9TXNdd9g5Ere-,._1xKxnscCn2PjBiXhorZef4{height:16px;padding-right:4px;vertical-align:top}.icon._1LLqoNXrOsaIkMtOuTBmO5{height:20px;vertical-align:middle;padding-right:8px}.QB2Yrr8uihZVRhvwrKuMS{height:18px;padding-right:8px;vertical-align:top}._3w_KK8BUvCMkCPWZVsZQn0{font-size:14px;font-weight:500;line-height:18px;color:var(--newCommunityTheme-actionIcon)}._3w_KK8BUvCMkCPWZVsZQn0 ._1LLqoNXrOsaIkMtOuTBmO5,._3w_KK8BUvCMkCPWZVsZQn0 ._2B0OHMLKb9TXNdd9g5Ere-,._3w_KK8BUvCMkCPWZVsZQn0 ._1xKxnscCn2PjBiXhorZef4,._3w_KK8BUvCMkCPWZVsZQn0 .QB2Yrr8uihZVRhvwrKuMS{fill:var(--newCommunityTheme-actionIcon)} I had all the classic symptoms. While we do connect people with vetted, board-certified doctors, we dont provide medical consultations, diagnosis, or advice. AR: androgen receptor; CSF: cerebrospinal fluid; MRI: magnetic resonance imaging; SRD5A2: 5 alpha reductase type 2 gene. How much worse can it get then being a lifeless piece of flesh that hasnt been erect or had any kind of sensation in months and months? Preparing a list of questions before your appointment can help you make the most of your time together. To give you a bit of background, I'm a 34 year old male whose sexual function was utterly destroyed by finasteride/Propecia. You are spreading nonsense, people have been trying that crap for years to no effect. This is a summary of the protocol which I followed for 6 months which eventually cured me. My hair loss is back full force, but so is my libido and so are my erections. Thats probably the worst part if you only read that forum youre pretty much going to feel hopeless. Crazy, but true! Advise Me with Something Good I Can Do to my Hair. Mild side effects that have been reported with finasteride include: ejaculation problems. 2016;101:46694680. A single copy of these materials may be reprinted for noncommercial personal use only. In this review, we focused our attention on adverse events related to 5 alpha-reductase (5-R) inhibitors (i.e., finasteride and dutasteride), approved for the treatment of benign prostatic hyperplasia and androgenetic alopecia (AGA). As a 5-alpha reductase inhibitor, finasteride works by inhibiting the effects of the enzyme thats responsible for converting testosterone into dihydrotestosterone (DHT). "I had a case of PFS that was a severe as it gets. Since it only comes in 5 and 1 mg pills, there isnt much of a choice. Studies show it can help slow or reverse the process of hair loss. Being ready to answer your doctor's questions might save time to go over any points you want to spend more time on. Traish AM, Melcangi RC, Bortolato M, Garcia-Segura LM, Zitzmann M. Rev Endocr Metab Disord. Minoxidil takes 4-6 months before an individual should assess whether or not it helps. Epub 2013 Jul 24. 2022 Jul 27;15(8):930. doi: 10.3390/ph15080930. Urologic Clinics of North America. I suspect its because my E2 was so low already and that made it feel even lower (single digits if I recall correctly). In addition, it has been also reported that persistent side effects may occur in some AGA patients. Best, Dr. Emer. The symptoms of PFS start to subside within four to eight months after discontinuing the medicine. PDF | Finasteride was patented in 1984 and approved for medical use in 1992. Here's some information to help you get ready for your appointment, and what to expect from your doctor. All of that changed in three days. Taking a vitamin D supplement or getting moderate sun exposure on a daily basis could be helpful in restoring your bodys vitamin D levels. People with post finasteride syndrome can have increased food sensitivities, extreme mood swings, and low energy levels. 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